tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8446351548038522890.post5078685958236831505..comments2024-03-08T13:21:43.158-05:00Comments on Saideman's Semi-Spew: On Golden Pond?Steve Saidemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09881915512311951902noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8446351548038522890.post-88323217357681748022010-05-12T08:14:24.717-04:002010-05-12T08:14:24.717-04:00- step mom was speaking Latin to the mom... how lo...- step mom was speaking Latin to the mom... how long ago was this? I think it was supposed to be a few thousand years or so<br />- step mom was around before the "village people" and Claudia's ship landed, born on the island? Or brought there by an earlier entity?<br />- is Jacob immortal? I'm hoping so, but this episode only hints that both bros are immortal -- stepmom says, when asked what death is, that they won't have to worry about that; and later, about men being violent etc, that she's made it so the two brothers can't hurt each other. Jacob being stabbed by MIB via Ben but then falling into the flames has to mean something...<br />- MIB's name -- Esau? But in that story, Jacob steals Esau's blessings with the connivance of mom by tricking Isaac (dad)... hmmm. ...<br />- and babies... Maybe the Kwon baby is the next candidate! {crossed fingers}Chipnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8446351548038522890.post-28608264057008753882010-05-12T06:07:43.247-04:002010-05-12T06:07:43.247-04:00The knife might have worked if she had not spoken ...The knife might have worked if she had not spoken to him yet. And I don't think she did. That, too, is one of the rules.Steve Saidemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881915512311951902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8446351548038522890.post-18987676718434897552010-05-12T01:02:09.546-04:002010-05-12T01:02:09.546-04:00But the village was burned by fire. The 'typic...But the village was burned by fire. The 'typical' Smokey deaths are the smoke monster wrapping the smoke around the person and then throwing bodies around until they die. The fire was not Smokey's typical death 'thing'.Bethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8446351548038522890.post-52013620468984350602010-05-12T00:31:50.175-04:002010-05-12T00:31:50.175-04:00*seriously
*theme*seriously<br /><br />*themeUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03447073937269499160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8446351548038522890.post-9545606960203363952010-05-12T00:31:14.331-04:002010-05-12T00:31:14.331-04:00Oh yeah, good point - she couldn't have been s...Oh yeah, good point - she couldn't have been smoky or the knife wouldn't have killed her. Damn, I forgot that! But serious, there has to be a smoky already on the island - her nemesis perhaps (to continue the them of there always being the good vs. the bad) - b/c how could that one woman have killed all the people in the village and filled in that well. That was definitely smoky-like collateral damage.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03447073937269499160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8446351548038522890.post-47198176225793058932010-05-12T00:21:10.653-04:002010-05-12T00:21:10.653-04:00-I agree, I hope we get a name for MIB - why does ...-I agree, I hope we get a name for MIB - why does he have no name?<br />-I agree that this episode was meant to be in a time we could not easily recognize because the clothing of the 'village' was not a recognizable time period.<br />-Obviously a Cane and Abel reference<br />-I would assume the fake mother was once part of the 'village' of people - Did she say she came to this Island with them?<br />-I thought the same thing about the fake Mom also being a smokey (she seems to speak as if she has been inside the golden pond & is now living in her own nightmare) - YET, if she was a smokey - then how would a knife have killed her? Remember when they tried to kill FLocke with the knife & it didn't work (he pulled it right out).<br />-I also was thinking of a Highlander reference - that once Highlander received his powers - then he became mortal.<br />-what did Jacob drink from that bottle? Was is someone’s blood? I doubt it was wine. They didn’t say L’Chiam .Bethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8446351548038522890.post-21291295328641518892010-05-11T23:54:19.801-04:002010-05-11T23:54:19.801-04:00I think the mom (Allison Janney) was both protecto...I think the mom (Allison Janney) was both protector AND smoke monster - and that's how she conned young MIB into a life that ultimately did what she wanted him to do, which was to kill her and release her from her responsibility of protecting the island, though I don't know or care how she got there (it's a loop that obviously keeps repeating). Then again, maybe dead people can just exist on the island giving away secrets to "special" people, I don't know ...<br /><br />And I think either one of the boys COULD leave the island whenever, assuming they had a way to do so, but lived by the mom's rules. She needed and wanted them to stay and having nobody else to teach/tell them any better, they just listened to her, though MIB questioned it whereas Jacob didn't.<br /><br />I'm guessing that wine gives you immortality - so you can stay alive and protect the island. And if anyone discovers and steals its secret (the light a/k/a tree of life/knowledge as some discussions said it was), and gets off the island, all life will die. Or some such thing. <br /><br />OK, I had it for a second, and now I lost it. But bottom line, judging by the posts I read, people either loved or hated the episode. I think it was a necessary part of the story and I don't care to opine about WHEN they decided to tell us this part or whether it could have been done in a shorter episode.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03447073937269499160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8446351548038522890.post-55960923772717634172010-05-11T23:20:51.217-04:002010-05-11T23:20:51.217-04:00I see that Doc and I see eye to eye about the moth...I see that Doc and I see eye to eye about the mother: http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/05/11/lost-across-the-sea/<br /><br />I wrote and posted before reading his. He types faster (or had the material earlier).Steve Saidemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881915512311951902noreply@blogger.com