tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8446351548038522890.post5831793367137038890..comments2024-03-08T13:21:43.158-05:00Comments on Saideman's Semi-Spew: Fete NationaleSteve Saidemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09881915512311951902noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8446351548038522890.post-1763394746352909802009-12-07T13:25:23.189-05:002009-12-07T13:25:23.189-05:00Didn't that reply... so, I'm late. But it&...Didn't that reply... so, I'm late. But it's still in the aire anyway.<br /><br />About the cost of independance, never it will be as much as the one the USA paid to be *one*. A society project should not have a price tag.<br /><br />After a winning referendum, dealing the separation is the first phase. Canada's lawyers and negociators would certainly pay a lot of attention not to loose a penny. Most of the other province would win independance themselve; it's a win-win situation if only we all look it positively. A new confederation is needed, not just for Quebec.<br /><br />You could see it the other way too; like Quebec intent to "invade" the constitution of Canada to rebuilt it better. We did brought it back from England (Trudeau), so why not moving forward again?Francois Caronhttp://wieloszcaron.blog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8446351548038522890.post-55381112142122011002009-06-25T12:21:37.958-04:002009-06-25T12:21:37.958-04:00I don't know if it will make you feel better, ...I don't know if it will make you feel better, Francois, but Americans are not aware of any other country's independence or national days. Americans don't know about Canada Day. Cinco de Mayo is not seen beyond the Latino community as having a particular meaning. So, it is no indicator of Quebec's standing in the world. <br /><br />My basic stance is that the grievances that Quebec has would be enough for independence if it did not involve any significant costs. But such a significant change would be costly--economically, politically, socially and all the rest. Of course, last time around, the Yes supporters tries to make it appear that one could have independence and yet have Canada still cover much of the costs. Hence the Clarity Act.Steve Saidemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881915512311951902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8446351548038522890.post-28615878840463228032009-06-25T11:31:42.594-04:002009-06-25T11:31:42.594-04:00The issues are not what they use to be, and the on...The issues are not what they use to be, and the ones that people will care for the next referendum could potentialy not being known today. Sadly, most likely 'money' will be top on list. Yes, today people in Quebec minds more about their pennies than their self-respect. Parizeau simply said a fact, well-known but rarely exposed. For that part, he can't be blamed, the rest was not so good... <br /><br />Anyhow, we have gained more control on most social and economy matter. Gradualy we respect more ourselves, and so other (like you) do. Quebec bashing of today is peanuts compare to before. It will take a lot of time to get to a fair point. Let's be what we are and let the home value be what it should be. Just let it be! We should not care how much better or worst we are. Not being, not existing and not being known is a terrible feeling. No one knows here about the 24th of June. No one knows we are proud of what we are, and we are the only one to blame. We'll get there one day.<br /><br />I'm very okay with the fact that we lost the 1995 referendum. We were not all ready for that, us as much as the rest of Canada and other countries. Yes, a vast majority should be the threshold.<br /><br />Enjoy our nation!Francois Caronhttp://wieloszcaron.blog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8446351548038522890.post-78402028212924772152009-06-25T02:12:45.273-04:002009-06-25T02:12:45.273-04:00Steve the Clarity Act tried to address the issues ...Steve the Clarity Act tried to address the issues regarding a future referendum that you raised though the law is not viewed as legitimate by sovereignists. It was interesting also that you raised the case of Montenegro. The 55% figure I always assumed was arrived at to account for the votes of the ethnic Albanians which if memory serves are about a tenth of the country, therefore a simple majority of the ethnic Montengrin vote would be required for independence. Indeed part of the resentment of the separtists in Quebec is that even with a clear majority (close to 60%) of francophones they can still lose a referendum.vladimirnoreply@blogger.com