
Jody Thomas was much more
interesting today, presenting her story than earlier in the week at the CDAI
conference, presenting the Minister's message. Tis only natural and
inevitable. I found her
discussion of Canada's role in fostering the
Jordanian Female Engagement Teams (units of female soldiers designed to engage
the other half of the population). Just as the Western countries learned
that they needed women to talk to women in the Muslim world, so do the
countries of the region. I also found Thomas's story--her father, the
commander of the Navy, discouraged her from joining the Navy because she should
only join an organization that she could ultimately lead--most
interesting. I noted on twitter that the Deputy Minister job is a wee bit
higher than the commander of the navy*--so she did alright. She referred
to the students in the room as being beacons of hope, but I am pretty sure that
they saw her as being pretty beacon-y. I also liked her line about
failure not being an end-state, but being a part of the growth process. The key
insightful line is that men tend to have sponsors, but women tend to have
mentors. This was very striking, and I need to think about it some, but
the general idea is that men getting help from senior folks is normal and
expected, whereas women getting assistance may be seen as unfair and
unmeritorious ways for women to get ahead.

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view of the crowd from the stage |
I was on the next panel with
Yolande Bouka of Queens, Jeffrey Rice of the CDSN (and of Macewan starting July
1st), and Lindsay Coombs of DND. Lindsay helped to create WIISQ, has been
a rockstar in the various defence circles, and is now working on her
dissertation while working at DND. I was the oldest on the panel by far. My colleagues on the panel talked about their
work--Jeff on protection of civilians in Afghanistan by UN/NATO, Yolande on women in non-state armed groups, and Lindsay on the larger effort to develop norms
regarding child soldiers.
I was very much the outlier
as I don't do work on gender. So, I decided to talk about what I have seen
over the course of my career--much progress but not enough damn it (the latter
was inspired by many conversations with Kid Spew, Teen Spew, and, now, Adult
Abroad Spew).
I started by discussing being
an ally thanks, in part, to this tweet:
Great thread. Thank you Steve...as I said before thank you for always being an Ally. Men being allies is key to achieving gender equity. Not enough to ‘lean in’. Hugs!!!— Bessma Momani (@b_momani) March 7, 2020
I joked that as a scholar of alliances, I know only too well that allies can be quite reliable or quite unreliable. I then noted a bit of discomfort with the term since my intention was always to be a decent human being. I sometimes have fallen short of that, but that has been the goal. That it has made me to be viewed as a good ally says something quite sad actually. Although I will take the compliment in the spirit it was given.
I then relayed what happened
earlier in the week: that the head of personnel, a three star admiral, was
grilled by two female cadets at the big Ottawa conference. The highlight
for me was when the admiral was wondering why men tended to suggest that women get
promoted to key roles because of their gender and not because of merit, and one
of the cadets suggested that it might be to due to the culture of the
organization.
Which was a nice seque to
discussing my career, going from a spot where there were few women taking hard
security classes to working at a place that is quite diverse. So, woot,
progress.
And then I discussed how
there are not enough women at the higher ranks, explaining the leaky pipeline
with much help from Sara Mitchell. I quickly mentioned my blog post where
I was challenged to list the senior women of color in IR in the US and Canada
and found about ten names. Which means few mentors/role models.
But sexual harassment is
still a big problem with universities focused more on protecting themselves
than their students. I highlighted the need for collective action, which
is where student organizations can come in.

I really enjoyed meeting both
the women who spoke and those in the audience. While my talk was about
the progress, obstacles, and regression for women in the defence/security
space, I am very optimistic about the future. That these young women are
the future, just as I used to say that Stef vH was the future of Canadian
defence studies (she is now the present). So, yeah, the future is mighty bright.
* No, the Navy chief is
not under the Deputy Minister, but he is under the CDS who is parallel to the
DM.
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